好書介紹

lvrunner

剛剛睇完這書, 覺得對改善跑資(running form), 防止脚患很有幫助. 作者教大家怎樣用類此yoga,太極嘅概念黎跑步,圖文並茂. 值得一看.
書名: CHI RUNNING ~ A Revolutionary Approached To Effectless, Injury-Free Running
作者:  Danny Dreyer with Katherine Dreyer

佐治男孩

原帖由 spmho 於 2009-9-22 09:55 發表

                               
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本書改左版....加多左好多圖......
其實有心學跑步......看英文版也沒有問題......
最麻煩反而係香港連買都買唔到有關書......
(jack/pfitzinger在香港買不到的....)




正如你的BLOG都講過...唔同時期 ...

同意，明白。

spmho

原帖由 佐治男孩 於 2009-9-22 05:40 發表

                               
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好書一本,在下也有,也看過.

可能有些不同意書中把跑步跟太極挂鈎的道理,但裏面的跑姿技術非常正確.

各位ching/ctse,好的跑步書大多沒有中文版.跑步的人少,要找人翻譯,才賣那一千幾百本,書商才不會做 ...

本書改左版....加多左好多圖......
其實有心學跑步......看英文版也沒有問題......
最麻煩反而係香港連買都買唔到有關書......
(jack/pfitzinger在香港買不到的....)

I also have this book (I can open a running book library at home )

Though it is a decently good book, its concepts are slightly out of date.  The training concepts are not as updated as the Jack Daniels or Pfitzinger methods.

If you can only buy one or have the energy to read only one English running book, buy Jack Daniels' Daniels Running Formula or Pfitzinger/Douglas's Road Racing for Serious Runners.  Both are excellent reads.

正如你的BLOG都講過...唔同時期既需要都唔同...
BOB的書是為初學者而寫的....在有經驗的你來說當然好像outdate.....
Jack同pfitzinger則較適合經驗跑手

佐治男孩

原帖由 spmho 於 2008-7-15 23:42 發表

                               
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幸運地，今日係銅鑼灣間page1見到有「The Competitive Runner's Handbooks」(by Bob Glover，仲要係3rd edition)
我用大約$170多少少買左，睇下呢位名家有咩教到我地

不過應該可以唔駛睇晒，因為佢由train5k到ma ...

I also have this book (I can open a running book library at home )

Though it is a decently good book, its concepts are slightly out of date.  The training concepts are not as updated as the Jack Daniels or Pfitzinger methods.

If you can only buy one or have the energy to read only one English running book, buy Jack Daniels' Daniels Running Formula or Pfitzinger/Douglas's Road Racing for Serious Runners.  Both are excellent reads.

[ 本帖最後由 佐治男孩 於 2009-9-22 05:48 編輯 ]

佐治男孩

原帖由 spmho 於 2008-7-8 17:31 發表

                               
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大家不如分享一下腳掌落地既問題

我自己都有少少猶豫，到底應該用前腳掌落地定腳跟落地先

認同前腳落地既跑手，就會話咁跑會快，但小腿、脛骨容易傷，一些中長距離既跑手支持
認同腳跟落地先既跑手，就會話咁 ...

腳跟落地先肯定是錯誤的.

前腳掌或中腳掌則看自己喜好.Geb喜歡前腳掌,但大部分全馬職業跑手是用中腳掌.

佐治男孩

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-7-8 11:24 發表

                               
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剛剛睇完這書, 覺得對改善跑資(running form), 防止脚患很有幫助. 作者教大家怎樣用類此yoga,太極嘅概念黎跑步,圖文並茂. 值得一看.
書名: CHI RUNNING ~ A Revolutionary Approached To Effectless, I ...

好書一本,在下也有,也看過.

可能有些不同意書中把跑步跟太極挂鈎的道理,但裏面的跑姿技術非常正確.

各位ching/ctse,好的跑步書大多沒有中文版.跑步的人少,要找人翻譯,才賣那一千幾百本,書商才不會做賠本生意啦.

ChARsoN

原帖由 kaevin 於 2008-7-8 21:04 發表

                               
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腳前方 (o個舊肉) 著地... =/= 腳尖 (腳指尖..)

著地時, 腳跟微微屈摺 (拉近腳背與小腿前方o既距離), 減小撞擊力, 但相對對小腿後方肌肉形成拉扯... 膝頭微微屈摺, hip 與腳跟距離減小, 進一步減小撞擊力...

我 ...

但我先前用過的一個跑法就試過跑傷跟腱
膝頭卻幾乎一點問題都無

最近則兩處都好像有點問題....

spmho

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-7-16 00:39 發表

                               
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Stanley hing,

I see! typical Hong Kong'ers I guess !

The Runner's Handbook is actually just a very very basic book.  Most of the stuff he mentioned in that book is also covered in the o ...

我見過本runner's handbook，望過下個contents，我都feel到好似本run for fitness既書多d

lvrunner

原帖由 stanleyhpm 於 2008-7-15 08:28 發表

                               
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無多啦，睇到重要係無穿無爛已經好好

lv兄，呢個網既師兄大部份鍾意「行動實踐」
係我d書呆子先會走去買書睇
仲有呢本書有640頁，全部英文，d人睇完第一頁就放低左啦

其實大家有興趣的話，可以去公共圖書館借佢本2nd edition
不過就要去青衣，同得佢有一本咁大把，多都無

又，呢個作者有本「The Runner's Handbook」，lv兄有冇睇過?

Stanley hing,

I see! typical Hong Kong'ers I guess !

The Runner's Handbook is actually just a very very basic book.  Most of the stuff he mentioned in that book is also covered in the one you'd bought.  Many people I know that bought the Runner's handbook ended up later buying the Competitive one.  So you are good to go!

spmho

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-7-16 00:21 發表

                               
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Stanley hing, congrats on getting this book.  This is really a runner's bible.  It is really written for beginner runners from 5K to full marathon.  I still use it once awhile for cross reference.   ...

無多啦，睇到重要係無穿無爛已經好好

lv兄，呢個網既師兄大部份鍾意「行動實踐」
係我d書呆子先會走去買書睇
仲有呢本書有640頁，全部英文，d人睇完第一頁就放低左啦

其實大家有興趣的話，可以去公共圖書館借佢本2nd edition
不過就要去青衣，同得佢有一本咁大把，多都無

又，呢個作者有本「The Runner's Handbook」，lv兄有冇睇過？

[ 本帖最後由 stanleyhpm 於 2008-7-16 00:30 編輯 ]

lvrunner

原帖由 stanleyhpm 於 2008-7-15 07:42 發表

                               
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幸運地，今日係銅鑼灣間page1見到有「The Competitive Runner's Handbooks」(by Bob Glover，仲要係3rd edition)
我用大約$170多少少買左，睇下呢位名家有咩教到我地

不過應該可以唔駛睇晒，因為佢由train5k到ma ...

Stanley hing, congrats on getting this book.  This is really a runner's bible.  It is really written for beginner runners from 5K to full marathon.  I still use it once awhile for cross reference.  Any more left?  should tell other beginner runners buy it too.  Enjoy and have fun reading it.

spmho

幸運地，今日係銅鑼灣間page1見到有「The Competitive Runner's Handbooks」(by Bob Glover，仲要係3rd edition)
我用大約$170多少少買左，睇下呢位名家有咩教到我地

不過應該可以唔駛睇晒，因為佢由train5k到marathon都有，男子女子都有

lvrunner

原帖由 Alex 於 2008-7-14 22:51 發表

                               
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I'd went to bookstore for check but they said no DVD or VHS included.

It doesn't come with DVD or VHS.  I meant it also comes in DVD or VHS format.  So if you don't want to read the book, you can buy the DVD or VHS instead.  But like Stanley hing said, it isn't a popular book in HK so the store probably doesn't stock the DVD or VHS anyway.

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spmho

原帖由 Alex 於 2008-7-15 14:51 發表

                               
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I'd went to bookstore for check but they said no DVD or VHS included.

書已經少，DVD同VHS更加難有
無係正常，因為好少人買

力

I'd went to bookstore for check but they said no DVD or VHS included.

lvrunner

Thanks Stanley hing, hope you can find all these books in HK!

lvrunner

Here is the back of the book.

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力

Hi Stanley hing,
Thanks for your report! I will go to buy one

spmho

原帖由 lvrunner 於 2008-7-15 01:56 發表

                               
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Thanks Stanley hing for your detailed translation!!  May be next time if I have another book recommedation, you can read it first and then translate the contents for all of us, like doing a mini book report .  How's that.

Have you heard of a book called "Lore of Running by Tim Noakes" before?  This is another excellent book to read and digest but very technical.  It's only 930+ pages !!
...

lv hing, it's not easy to finish a book, especially not in my mother language.
If I can finish one, of course, I don't mind share some good points here.

Sorry, not yet heard of "Lore of Running by Tim Noakes". May try to see if it is avaliable in HK.
Actually, running books in HK is not common, no matter in English or Chinese.
Those chinese one, I would say, was suck. Not many good one. They are mainly written by Taiwanee or Japanese, but translated by Taiwanee.
For those english books avaliable, price is expensive and stock is limit. And sometimes I think english one is written for American, we need to filter those useful stiff for Asian.

I even tried to find "Competitive Runner's Handbook by Bob Glover" you recommended, only 1 broken book avaliable for stock, but seems that the content is good.

咁又未必嘅, 應該話係適合所有想有improvement嘅runners睇.

yes, you are right. thanks for your correction.

Who is 李嘉綸?

李嘉綸係香港一位資深既跑手教練，佢以前同而家都仲有跑，不過而家主力教跑
佢話自己用左d退休金去開左下面呢個跑步練習中心
http://www.hkrunningcamp.com

lvrunner

Thanks Stanley hing for your detailed translation!!  May be next time if I have another book recommedation, you can read it first and then translate the contents for all of us, like doing a mini book report .  How's that.

Have you heard of a book called "Lore of Running by Tim Noakes" before?  This is another excellent book to read and digest but very technical (medical physiology and biochemistry materials).  It's only 930+ pages !!

因為係俾初學者睇........

咁又未必嘅, 應該話係適合所有想有improvement嘅runners睇.  

1. 跑步最重要係練好跑姿，然後再練距離，最後先理速度。有一個好既form，速度自然黎；如果連做距離時，都可以做到個form，咁跑步就真係easy。你就跑得幾快，但個form錯既，唔駛幾耐就會傷。
2. 作者認為大家死訂一個什麼target時間都無用，最重要係平時大家set個training plan做得好唔好，功課做得足唔足，比賽只係一個test，pb到只係一個cake.......

too bad, not too many runners (especially beginners) have these insights.  End result ~ major burnout!!!

Who is 李嘉綸?

BTW, the book also comes with DVD and VHS formats.  You can even join their discussion forum too.

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